Legislature(1993 - 1994)

02/09/1993 08:00 AM House STA

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  SSHB 48: DELAYED PAYMENT OF LEGISLATORS' SALARIES                            
                                                                               
  Number 200                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE FRAN ULMER, PRIME SPONSOR of SSHB 48, stated                  
  the purpose of the bill was to create an incentive for the                   
  legislature to complete the operating budget in a more                       
  timely manner.  Until the budget passed no legislators would                 
  be paid.  She shared her frustration with the bottleneck in                  
  the finance committee toward the end of session which                        
  interfered with the process of getting a bill to pass each                   
  year.  She believed SSHB 48 would help the operating budget                  
  bill to pass more quickly.                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 257                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked if SSHB 48 would confiscate or just                     
  delay the payment to each legislator.                                        
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER responded it would be a legal problem                   
  if the legislator's income was confiscated, so SSHB 48 would                 
  be to delay payment only.                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 269                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked if delaying a check of $400.00 per week                 
  would really be an incentive.                                                
                                                                               
  Number 274                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER said any incentive would be helpful                     
  because rules and guidelines were being ignored.  Maybe the                  
  public would give more attention if, by the 90th day, the                    
  capital budget was not done, she added.                                      
                                                                               
  (Chairman Vezey stated Representative Bettye Davis joined                    
  the committee at 8:15 a.m.)                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 292                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER discussed the changes in SSHB 48 on                     
  line 12 page 2.  The Governor must submit the budget to the                  
  legislature by the 45th day instead of the 60th day, she                     
  noted.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 306                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT did not believe the $400 would be a                      
  strong enough incentive, but felt the limitation might                       
  pressure the budget to be done in an untimely manner.  This                  
  incentive affected the $400 salary only and no other funds,                  
  he pointed out.                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 324                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE HARLEY OLBERG asked why withholding the                       
  salary was not limited to members of the Finance Committee                   
  only.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 329                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER said the influence on members of the                    
  committee from peer pressure would also be an incentive.                     
                                                                               
  Number 340                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked about the intent of 30 days being set                   
  aside for non-budget attention.                                              
                                                                               
  Number 344                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER said bills with fiscal notes and the                    
  operating budget would get crunched together.  There would                   
  be better decision making if the operating budget was                        
  completed first, and less leverage against legislators and                   
  their bills would streamline the process, she added.                         
                                                                               
  Number 364                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT asked if the change to a 90 day session                  
  from a 120 day session would automatically change this                       
  problem.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 370                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER said there would still be a crunch in                   
  the Finance Committee.  By pacing legislators to break up                    
  the duties early in the session, things would be better                      
  organized, she believed.                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 381                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GARY DAVIS applauded any effort to improve                    
  the system.  To delay salary payment might not be effective                  
  but the message was good and might help the legislative                      
  image, he believed.  He had thought of ways to improve the                   
  legislative process but wanted to wait a while to introduce                  
  his ideas.  He wanted to see the response of other                           
  legislators to SSHB 48.                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 412                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG said the money was symbolic, but the                   
  media could hold the legislature's "feet to the fire."  He                   
  shared his frustration with the system and hoped to see                      
  SSHB 48 move out of committee.                                               
                                                                               
  Number 424                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY discussed the interest paid for withholding                   
  legislative salaries for 30 days would total less than $600                  
  for all legislators as compared to $8 million spent annually                 
  on lobbying.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 431                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE KOTT asked the committee to MOVE SSHB 48.                     
  Roll call was taken with a unanimous yes vote.                               

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